Comments on: Arnold Pays Off CTA http://www.eiaonline.com/intercepts/2006/05/11/arnold-pays-off-cta/ A listening post monitoring public education and teachers' unions. Sat, 04 Feb 2012 13:02:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mike Antonucci http://www.eiaonline.com/intercepts/2006/05/11/arnold-pays-off-cta/comment-page-1/#comment-641 Mike Antonucci Fri, 12 May 2006 04:37:00 +0000 http://www.eiaonline.com/intercepts/2006/05/11/arnold-pays-off-cta/#comment-641 **I remember under Gray Davis the CTA got a 1.9 billion dollar bonus for teachers(some rumors had the deal happening in a limo ride)**<br/><br/>That's not a rumor. See<br/><br/>http://www.eiaonline.com/archives/20000717.htm **I remember under Gray Davis the CTA got a 1.9 billion dollar bonus for teachers(some rumors had the deal happening in a limo ride)**

That’s not a rumor. See

http://www.eiaonline.com/archives/20000717.htm

]]> By: A. Kriegbaum http://www.eiaonline.com/intercepts/2006/05/11/arnold-pays-off-cta/comment-page-1/#comment-640 A. Kriegbaum Fri, 12 May 2006 01:53:00 +0000 http://www.eiaonline.com/intercepts/2006/05/11/arnold-pays-off-cta/#comment-640 Teachers are giddy about the potential for a second BIG raise in 6 years. I think that most teachers aren't analytical about the overall situation of teaching, new teachers, money, state budgets; most people are, however, keenly aware of what 8% (eg.) increase means to their paycheck. <br/><br/>From a personal standpoint as a public school teacher, I will benefit, I guess. From a macro-view I am not really sure which candidate this leaves me in November. I voted for the Governator because he was going to stop silly spending and balance the budget. I'm not sure what he wants now: 35+ billion in new borrowing and a few billion thrown at the CTA. Who is this guy? <br/><br/>Between Arnold and Pres. Bush, the democrats look like the conservatives of 1990, on spending anyway, since they are the ones reigning in spending.<br/><br/>I remember under Gray Davis the CTA got a 1.9 billion dollar bonus for teachers(some rumors had the deal happening in a limo ride) and I couldn't believe that the smoke-filled room politics of the Harding administration could still live on in such a blatantly open way. Arnold just made Gray look like a cheap tipper. Teachers are giddy about the potential for a second BIG raise in 6 years. I think that most teachers aren’t analytical about the overall situation of teaching, new teachers, money, state budgets; most people are, however, keenly aware of what 8% (eg.) increase means to their paycheck.

From a personal standpoint as a public school teacher, I will benefit, I guess. From a macro-view I am not really sure which candidate this leaves me in November. I voted for the Governator because he was going to stop silly spending and balance the budget. I’m not sure what he wants now: 35+ billion in new borrowing and a few billion thrown at the CTA. Who is this guy?

Between Arnold and Pres. Bush, the democrats look like the conservatives of 1990, on spending anyway, since they are the ones reigning in spending.

I remember under Gray Davis the CTA got a 1.9 billion dollar bonus for teachers(some rumors had the deal happening in a limo ride) and I couldn’t believe that the smoke-filled room politics of the Harding administration could still live on in such a blatantly open way. Arnold just made Gray look like a cheap tipper.

]]> By: MG Terrell http://www.eiaonline.com/intercepts/2006/05/11/arnold-pays-off-cta/comment-page-1/#comment-639 MG Terrell Thu, 11 May 2006 17:35:00 +0000 http://www.eiaonline.com/intercepts/2006/05/11/arnold-pays-off-cta/#comment-639 RE: Phony Teacher Retention<br/>Richard Ingersoll's <a HREF="http://www.americanprogress.org/atf/cf/%7BE9245FE4-9A2B-43C7-A521-5D6FF2E06E03%7D/Ingersoll-FINAL.pdf" REL="nofollow"> paper </a>(2004) about teachers in high-poverty schools uses SASS data. He finds that annual teacher turnover (voluntary and involuntary) in urban high-poverty schools is 22 percent. But even in these schools, teacher turnover is lower than employee turnover in some private professional and business services. See <a HREF="http://www.nobscot.com/survey/index.cfm" REL="nofollow"> Bureau of Labor Statistics </a> on VOLUNTARY employee turnover (firings and layoffs in these industries aren't included in the Bureau of Labor statistics and inclusion of those numbers would obviously increase the turnover percentages greatly). RE: Phony Teacher Retention
Richard Ingersoll’s paper (2004) about teachers in high-poverty schools uses SASS data. He finds that annual teacher turnover (voluntary and involuntary) in urban high-poverty schools is 22 percent. But even in these schools, teacher turnover is lower than employee turnover in some private professional and business services. See Bureau of Labor Statistics on VOLUNTARY employee turnover (firings and layoffs in these industries aren’t included in the Bureau of Labor statistics and inclusion of those numbers would obviously increase the turnover percentages greatly).

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